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Postby LloydG on Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:12 am

hedge wrote:Where do you get your inspiration, Lloyd? Does it just hit you and you have to write it, or do you sit down and say, 'I'm going to write a poem now' and sort of make it happen deliberately?

Sometimes an image or phrase will emerge from nowhere and I'll jot it down; over time, it serves as a seed crystal for related material. Once I ended up with a 40 line epic of which 8 lines were worth keeping. The exact history is different for each poem, but there are a few common features:

1) The idea for the topic usually follows some external stimulus, e.g. 'In-Flight Failure' followed a season of watching Air Crash Investigation on TV.
2) I almost never just sit down and write finished copy
3) When I get stuck into composing/editing a poem, I can't stop - typically working obsessively at it into the small hours, to the detriment of the following day.
4) Having got a poem to a stage of apparent completeness, I then put it aside for a while until I can re-read it with fresh eyes. That first re-reading is very telling, and usually sparks a whole new cycle of work on the poem. When I can re-read and not find fault, then it's ready to go.
5) I can usually tell which poems are good and which are not so good. I was impressed to find that the poems that won the CSIRO juried competitions were the ones that I felt were my best, as opposed to the ones I thought might prove popular.
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Postby Mad Dan Eccles on Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:42 am

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Dr Mike wrote:Maybe we can have a whip-round and buy you a cut-rate Muse.

Haha, thanks... I think there are a few on eBay at the moment. :D


In Australia?

They were probably nicked, then.
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Postby LloydG on Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:12 am

Mad Dan Eccles wrote: In Australia? They were probably nicked, then.

Other possibilities...

Muse, unwanted gift to lawyer, never used. Purchaser must collect at own risk.

Muse, in original box & still under warranty, will trade for XBox 360 or Wii.

Muse, inconveniently nocturnal, free to good home.
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Postby hedge on Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:29 pm

Splort! 'Inconveniently nocturnal'! But seriously, does anyone think muses still exist? We have all become so narcissistic, doesn't all inspiration come from within these days? (Must admit, I'm feeling negative having only realised that most of my friends in conversation tend not to ever respond to what's been said last, instead just turning the thread back to themselves. Has it always been like that or have I just not noticed before?)
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Postby Mad Dan Eccles on Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:50 pm

I was going to respond, giving a counter-example from my own experience, but realized that's exactly what you're whining about.











But seriously, I get a lot of my inspiration externally. If I didn't, my writing would be much, much darker, he said, ominously.
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Postby Octavia on Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:33 pm

Hedge, I think many of us fail to listen - human nature perhaps? I hear you though!

Dan, you should use some of your heart of darkness - darker writing is more interesting!
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Postby Upward Spiral on Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:53 pm

Lloyd, that's a really interesting account of your creative process. :oops: I'm ashamed to admit that when I see a poem of less than 12 lines, especially when it doesn't rhyme, I automatically think it's easy, you just dash it down and it takes 5 minutes. So you've opened my eyes to that one.
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Postby Octavia on Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:20 am

Shame on you, Uppie. :)

Though my mother once said roughly the same thing.


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Postby Mad Dan Eccles on Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:03 am

You heartless bastards.


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Postby hedge on Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:26 am

Part-time muse, evenings and weekends. No ironing.
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Postby Mad Dan Eccles on Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:13 am

:lol: :lol:

And they say scientists have no sense of humour.

No, wait; that's Germans, isn't it?

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Postby tideliar on Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:58 pm

Gawd...imagine being a German scientist! :lol:

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Postby The Prof on Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:51 pm

Do German scientists mind that everyone takes the piss out of them?

My two wear Birkenstocks in the lab. :)
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Postby rpg on Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:07 pm

Oh I do hope not. . .
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Postby Beatrice on Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:43 pm

Don't mention the B word. It always makes me feel as if they think the rest of us are filthy because we wear our lab shoes at home.
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